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Who thinks Santiago will rise in the rankings on BGG?
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mrbass



Joined: 05 Apr 06
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Location: Las Vegas

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:27 am    Post subject: Who thinks Santiago will rise in the rankings on BGG? Reply with quote

I sent a PM to JonMichael Rasmus who always does the Top 100 Analysis posts on BGG about Tikal's ratings. I believe it came out in Feb 2006 on spielbyweb (could be wrong though). Anyway it wasn't till March 2006 when BGG redid the ratings by adding 100 dummy votes so it revised many games ratings. Anyway here's the response I got.

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Tikal
3/21/2006 61
3/28/2006 62
4/4/2006 61
4/11/2006 57
4/18/2006 57
4/25/2006 59
5/2/2006 60
5/9/2006 58
5/16/2006 57
5/23/2006 57
5/30/2006 56
6/6/2006 56
6/13/2006 53
6/20/2006 53
6/27/2006 51
7/4/2006 52
7/11/2006 51
7/18/2006 51
7/25/2006 50
8/1/2006 50
8/8/2006 50
8/15/2006 50
8/22/2006 50
8/29/2006 50
9/5/2006 50
9/12/2006 50
9/19/2006 50
9/26/2006 51
10/3/2006 52
10/10/2006 52
10/17/2006 53
10/24/2006 52

Between May and July, Tikal picked up about 10 positions and it has only ceded two of those since leaving the peak in September. The two positions it has lost recenlty are due to Traumfabrik and Roads and Boats.


So who thinks Santiago will break the Top 50 in 3 or 4 months after it's got more exposure due to spielbyweb letting the masses try it out?

I could be mistaken but I think it was around #65 or #62 in March 2006.

Oct 26, 2006 931 ratings and is ranked #58
Nov 1, 2006 940 ratings and is ranked #57
Nov 9, 2006 948 ratings and is ranked #56


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ejmowrer



Joined: 18 Mar 06
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Location: Portland, OR, USA

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which reminds me... I need to go vote for Santiago.
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ges



Joined: 28 Mar 06
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just in my first few games, but am quite impressed with Santiago. There's a lot going on in the game...and it is a load of fun. So, yes, I think it will rise.
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markmist



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I rated Tikal a "10" on BGG after playing it on SBW. I had rated Santiago a "6" after playing 1 game in-person and I am now playing it on SBW to see if my opinion will change.

My other SBW ratings:
Amun Re - 7.5 (3 SBW plays, 1 in-person play) - I like this one better in-person.
Hacienda - 7.5 (8 SBW plays)
Hoity Toity - 7 (4 SBW plays)
Wallenstein - 3 (1 SBW play)
Reef Encounter - not played
Bus - not played
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Djura



Joined: 04 Nov 05
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Location: Victoria, Australia

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it already has 950 ratings, then the extra 100 or so players who will play it here wont make a huge difference unless they all think it's a great game. It seems like fun, though will have to play a few games through to the finish to get a real feel for it.


BGG I think needs to offer a different rating section for online plays. Playing games online is a totally different feel to in person plays. Amun Re is much more calculating online, and more intuitive in person. Tikal is so damn slow online, but probably would be more playable in person. Hoity Toity definitely should be played in person as a light filler only Smile
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kevinb9n



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Location: Mountain View, CA

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep in mind, Santiago is also being reprinted by Z-Man and will hit shelves again soon. So yes, I definitely think it's going to be on the up-and-up! It's one of my very few 10s; I think it's absolutely genius.
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smlait



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Location: alberta, canada

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tikal is so damn slow online, but probably would be more playable in person.


Clearly, you're not playing with the right people. Smile Two player games of Tikal with two fast players move speedily and are lots of fun.
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Wernazuma



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always thought that Santiago was seriously underrated. It's somehow ironic that people may need a PBW realization in order to see what a good game it is , while it actually lacks the intensive player interaction face to face, trying to talk the overseer into laying the canal where you want it.
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mrbass



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah online I'd say it's a 8 or 9 but face to face I give it a 10. Two of my best friends absolutely hate the game (namely, Dean and Johnathan). I like the hidden money, the psychological guessing what the opponents will bid. The screwage to see it on someone's face. I love the feeling of getting screwed too.
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galvaro



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With it's appearance here and the reprint, its ranking should go up. It's a good game. It should appeal to those who like abstracts like Ingenious and those who like a little negotiation as well.
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Jacksamson



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:12 am    Post subject: Who thinks Santiago will rise in the rankings on BGG? Reply with quote

hese ratings are used to determine an individual game's score and various other things, such as its ranking on the site.
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JanHam



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

omg, it appeared again...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Favourite Negotiation Game!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love to travel and hope to visit Santiago one day
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