SpielByWeb

[shugyosha]

As an idea, it would be nice if in a scoring round, the number of points you will score would be displayed somewhere.

2 benefits:

1. See how many points you score (versus other combinations if you have the time to use on it).

2. avoid silly mistakes, like you thought you won that temple but in fact the other guy had his big worker there so you lost.

And before you ask, it was the latter that prompted me to suggest it here.

[HappyProle]

This has been suggested before and is on our to-do list.

I think what we will do is add your potential score for the round to the end-turn message: "You've used all your action points and you will score X points this round. Do you wish to end your turn or undo... "

[rix_cz]

Hi, I don´t think it is good idea. You should know better on your own what do you want to do and what benefits you will get. Do not computer to calculate possible score. In the end it could be like to play against computer.

I like that game to play in real and the power of Tikal is that you can win if you do the best on your own.

[TheCat]

[fr33py]

Yes but part of the game is capitalizing on your oponents mistakes. Why should they have a handy tool telling them how many points they will earn if the turn ended? Is there a handy little tool that tells you that in the real game? Let each player count up his points and if he makes a mistake because he tought he had control of a temple but really doesn't then that allows for a more competent player to take advantage and win.

[TheCat]

[Golux13]

To me, what is much harder than tracking your own points in a scoring round is determining exactly what your opponents' scoring will be. Something that I can't do in a live game is make my conclusions about how my opponents will score and then try various scenarios to see which one will maximize my score (or maximize my swing versus my opponents, which is not necessarily the same thing). Here I can do that; the only question is whether or not the interface should simplify the process by telling me for each scenario what my score will be. Since the situation is not analogous to a live game situation (except for those few people who can run through multiple scenarios in their heads fast enough to keep their opponents from being pissed off), I don't think it makes any sense to make the decision based on what would or wouldn't happen in a live game.

The interface is an administrative tool that smooths the operation of the game. In a live game, there is nobody tracking your score and making sure you count correctly; here the interface does that. In a live game, it is possible to make a mistake and use too many AP, and have your opponents miss it; here the interface makes that impossible. In that light, I see nothing wrong with adding a feature to the interface that tells you an accurate count for your scoring round before you confirm that you are done.

[Onceler]

Why not BOTH, add the score tracker as an option that the game creator can implement or not.

I prefer Tikal as is, but appreciate that others may want the aid. If I can create my game the way I like it, and let other create the game they want, then we are both happy.
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[gische]

Personally, I'd prefer a counter that told you how many points you controlled at any given time. If it can't be a running count during the turn, than perhaps just the beginnning and end of turn. When I'm looking to maximize points on scoring rounds, I run through various scenarios in my head, and I find myself wasting a ton of time counting and recounting the current state. Yes, I could just write it down. But if it's easy to implement, why not do it?

I don't really see the argument that this reduces the skill of the game at all. It just reduces the time it takes for a player to make their turn. Which should lead to faster games. Which I believe is a goal that we can all appreciate.

[rix_cz]

Sometimes better is not the best.

[rix_cz]

Anyway... isn´t it nice to calculate it on your own with pencil and piece of paper? I think that web tikal in question of scoring is allright now and it doesn´t need to be changed.

[TheCat]

[rix_cz]

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