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koinski



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. For me the faster the better. But don't really matter.
2. I like 3 games on the same map
3. Map choices: this is too much for me, so i take whatever i get.
4. 10 is nice
5. Sounds good
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Rebelslayer



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all seems to work well at the moment! I favor 3 games on same map at once, but agree with the thought of more variation in maps ... occasional land buyout games are fine on good maps!
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cpsof95



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 3rd game could be made more meaningful in several ways. For example, if you win 3-0, you get 2 points, but if you win 2-1, you only get one point. The loser would get 0 points in both cases.

Or maybe 1 point per win, you just play 3 games against each opponent. I'm not sure if there's any reason for the best-of-3 format.
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stargate



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the format the way it is now
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wildscrpio



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stargate wrote:
I like the format the way it is now


Yep.. I agree.. worked well for me and I had fun!
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Zaui



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stargate wrote:
I like the format the way it is now


Me too.
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worcesterarlo



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the current format as it is too.

I did think this was a good idea though:
Wildfire2099 wrote:

As to ranking people going forward... I might do something more like this:

Div A gets 4 pts per win, Div B get 3 points, Div C get 2, Div D gets 1...

that way the players that did well in their group have a small chance to be ranked ahead of those from the bottom of the one above... otherwise, you wont get alot of movement in either direction.
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Kanga



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to hear everyone's thoughts. Keep them coming.

It seems like the general consensus is that the 3 game matches are good. Some push for using different maps within the game, my main objection is trying to choose them!

I'll have a look at how that point system above works in practice, it's a good concept, I like having the ability to vary the LEagues by more than 2 players each, particularly because the initial division was not necessarily very accurate.

I'll probably go with 9 days between for the next season. However it will be a condition of joining that if you fall behind, you are willing to be playing 3,4 or even more matches at the same time.


The main area I think could be improved is in the map selection, which is very much biased towards maps I like. Please take a look at the map rankings I posted in an old thread, and suggest different maps and, if necessary, your reasons for liking them.

Also, feedback on the maps used this season - where there any that you really disliked in particular?
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rorshaq



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) 9 days is good for me

2) i can see noone else likes my idea Sad so am happy enuff with it as it stands

3) maps - i'm no expert so will leave this to others till i know more about what makes a good map

4/5) would definitely prefer fewer players - maybe 6 - as it facilitates adding new recruits and keeps things more active

n) i would also like to see an option of maybe opting out of 1 iteration of the league without being relegated
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Kanga



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fully expect that some players will opt in and out of the league as seasons pass. Each time a player joins or rejoins I will attempt to place them in the appropriate league. So if they are a previous player in the League then I'll have a pretty good idea where they belong.

Another point for the new season: where possible I'd like to be able to communicate with players via email. It's painfully slow sending messages to multiple players, as the site wont let you send to more than one player at a time and there's an enforced delay of about 15-20 seconds between sending messages. I suspect most players are like myself and have regular email accounts so would be able to be contacted that way instead. I'd still use forums for all important information.
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Kanga



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New league signup will start very soon

please post any more thoughts as to format of the league here
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NoMoreCheese



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll also put a vote in for having enjoyed it very much as is.

Could some things (map selection, variants played, etc) be different? Sure. But this league is this format and it seems works well. To me, if you're looking for play on multiple maps with different variants, playing in one of the many tournaments also going on simultaneously - and I would like to note also setup and monitored very well by Kanga, thank you for your time - is an option already available.
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TMJJS



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Early_10 wrote:
Kanga wrote:
not sure what happened there

TMJJS is actually 0 wins 6 losses.

Anytime there is an extreme score like this, you have to question the brackets.



Or question the skill of the player! Most of those loses were 2-1, but while I understand the game, I'm not sure I'm real good at it. According to this league - I'm not!
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Kanga



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TMJJS wrote:
Early_10 wrote:
Kanga wrote:
not sure what happened there

TMJJS is actually 0 wins 6 losses.

Anytime there is an extreme score like this, you have to question the brackets.



Or question the skill of the player! Most of those loses were 2-1, but while I understand the game, I'm not sure I'm real good at it. According to this league - I'm not!


I suspect you were simply placed in the wrong bracket. League A was very very tough. You were effectively ranked on one good result in a 5 player tournament.
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Early_10



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Kanga for running this along with the tournaments. Your efforts are truly appreciated. :hugethumbup:
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