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Kanga



Joined: 27 Oct 05
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Location: Moe, Victoria, Australia

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="tphon"]Shucks, I missed the Bus trainer.

Worse though, I just typed a lengthy explaination of the basis of playing Bus and get told my message was sent to hell, how annoying. Evil or Very Mad
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If that happens, just hit the back button on your browser, refresh the screen and resubmit. To be safe you should copy your message before hitting refresh, but I've never lost a message this way.
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dawnuk



Joined: 03 Aug 07
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Location: Sth Glos., UK

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd join, if your still looking for a few more players?, although you may not want me as I have never played Wallenstein or Bus, (but I do love learning new games and have now read the rules Smile ) I will try to play a learning game before hand if there is time, to give myself a chance in case there's a space for me Question Smile
Any explanations would be gratefully read Cool, shame I missed the Bus trainer Sad I am watching though Rolling Eyes
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Gaditus



Joined: 05 Feb 07
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Location: Canterbury, UK

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first bus trainer is still in the station, passenger ahauwi1 is yet to take his ticket!

Virtually the sum of my wisdom is in the comment section of that game so you can look there if it helps!

I can set another one up if you would like (or maybe we should ask tphon).

I am not sure knowing what to do in Wally has helped me at all! I still play as well(?) as I did in my first game.

So if you would like to play please come on in. I will start with 12 if I can sort out some way of arranging the games so most play each other. (16 would be much easier for me Laughing )

The only proviso (for everyone) is the usual regarding time to take a turn - please do not join if you think you will slow us down too much. dawn - your speed in the Amun Re leisurely tournament was more than acceptable.
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tphon



Joined: 02 Nov 07
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Location: Wirral, England

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did try using the back button but it was gone. I didn't hit refresh though.

Anyway I'll try again.

Bus

After the initial placement (I’ll come back to that) you get 20 and only 20! action stones which can be used to select the various actions. Some of the actions are limited, only 1 new bus, clock and start player space. You must play at least two actions before passing. After everyone has passed the actions are resolved in left to right order across the tables (ie Line expansion first)

Line expansion, New Passenger and New Buildings are limited to the maximum number of buses owned by a player (ie with 3 buses owned by the player with the most only 3 spaces on these actions will be playable) Only the first player to choose the action gets the maximum number of items each subsequent stone played gets one less. So again with 3 buses, the first person to select line expansion gets 3 lines, the second 2 and third 1. Warning fourth gets none (A common newbie mistake)

Line expansion is played in the reverse order to the stones being placed, last valid placement goes first with 1 line, though to first placement with max number of buses. There is one difference for the 5 player game on this action only. The number of lines placed is increased by one of each position. This action comes before buying the bus so remember that the bus purchase in the round will not count for the maximum. Each line can only placed at either end of your existing line. It is further complicated in that it can not normally be placed alongside another line. The exception is if the end of your line meets the end of another line you may place alongside that other line, resulting in 2 or more lines running parallel.

Buy a bus, only one person can choose this but as you need buses to score it is vital to earning points.

Placing passengers, these arrive at one of the two station spaces, players choice. This is actioned in the order played, first person to choose goes first with the maximum through to the 1 passenger only space. This comes after buying the bus so the maximum may now be higher.

New Buildings is player in reverse order, the first player choosing getting the new maximum but playing last. The letters on the board indicate the available building spaces, A’s have to be built on first the B’s, C’s and the D’s. (ie a C spot can not be built on while any B space remain available)

Time clock adds a bit of a twist. Only one player can select this. If no one selects this action then at this stage time moves on through the cycle (Home, office, pub). This indicates where passengers want to be and therefore where you need to take them. If this action is choosen the player may stop time on the current stage in the cycle (eg if on Pub it stays there). If time is stopped this counts as -1 point to that player at the end of the game. There is a limit of 5 Clock stones that can be played during the whole game. One the fifth clock action is played the game ends immediately.

VROOOMM is the only way to score points and is what all the other actions have been leading up to. This is not limited by the number of buses but is resolved in the order this action was selected. First player to chose goes first. As I said the clock indicates where passengers want to be. You have a number of buses which may carry one passenger each. Each building can hold one passenger only. Passengers at junctions with more than one type of building will occupy the wanted one if available, stopping you use that building. You can only deliver passengers to empty buildings indicated by the clock. In order to deliver the passenger there must be an unhappy passenger on your line, one not in the correct building. As each player moves passengers buildings will become occupied making less opportunity to score for subsequent players. Also there will be less unhappy passengers as they get delivered.

Starting player does not grant any actions but means you go first in the next round, of vital importance early on to get extra buses and helpful later in the game by being able to select VROOOMM first.

Any of the multi-space actions can be selected more than once within the described limits.

You only have 20 stones and must play at least two per round, making maximum of 10 rounds. You can play more but could end up out of actions while everyone else carries on playing and scoring! The game ends (if not by the distortion of time) at the end of a round when only one player has any action stones left.

Now the initial placement, before the game starts for real each player in turn places two buildings on any of the indicated locations (A). Then each player in order places one line, the second line is then placed in reverse player order. The first line can be placed anywhere, even alongside another players line. The second line must follow normal placement rules, must join, go on free space unless you meet head to head another line.

Hope this helps those of you have not yet tried this very enjoyable game

Good luck everyone
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Defdamesdompi



Joined: 03 Feb 04
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Location: Brussels

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm interested !
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tlc



Joined: 12 Nov 06
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Location: Austin, TX, but my heart will always be in Boston

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm game for this... I would love to see an explanation of Bus... and I look forward to losing Wallenstien. LOL
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IBX



Joined: 22 Jun 07
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

put me down as "in"...I'll struggle through the games I don't know well...it will be a fun learning experience.
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dawnuk



Joined: 03 Aug 07
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Location: Sth Glos., UK

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Gaditus for your wisdom is in the comment section of 'Bustrainer'.
Also thanks for letting me know that my speed in the tournament was acceptable, being new to tournaments, it did worry me and I would hate to feel I was slowing the games down.

I would love to play a game of Bus if one is setup Smile

wow, tphon, that was a great explanation Very Happy
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IBX



Joined: 22 Jun 07
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't find the "bus trainer" game...
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tphon



Joined: 02 Nov 07
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Location: Wirral, England

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Struggle on IBX, I know the Rules of Amun-Re but struggle to get anywhere near winning Crying or Very sad

Sounding like a fun tourney anyway, can't wait Very Happy
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NoMoreCheese



Joined: 05 Jan 08
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does sound like a fun learning experience - everyone plays every game the first time at some point.

I'm in if there's room
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Dobinator



Joined: 18 Jul 07
Posts: 383

Location: North Carolina, USA

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, it's funny, I actually knew all the stuff in tphon's very clear explanation, but I still only got one point the last time I played... Smile
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cpsof95



Joined: 31 Mar 06
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Location: Finland

PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hesitated for a while too, as there are so many unknown games to me. But I guess it's the same for everybody (except Gaditus), so count me in.
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Gaditus



Joined: 05 Feb 07
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Location: Canterbury, UK

PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now we have 14

Gaditus
Payton
tphon
fredUK
smlait
jglazier
Dobinator
IBX
ahauwi1
Defdamesdompi
tlc
dawnUK
NoMoreCheese
cpsof95

Possible
lindalait

I'll ask Linda but we still need one more
- if anyone else wants in, please add your name.


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Pompkin



Joined: 06 Mar 07
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sure I am in then Smile
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